Asymmetrical Staysail kite

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     My boat is rigged cutter with check-stays..
Wondered if an asymmetrical spinnaker can be designed to run off the staysail?
  The cutter rig gives an excelant amount of options for adding or subtracting size of sail area and was thinking that adding a kite off the staysill would further the options, as an addition in light air or using it as a reduced spinnaker when winds build.

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RandyOnR3 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 21 September 2009 Location: California Online Status: Offline Posts: 16	Quote Reply Topic: Asymmetrical Staysail kite Posted: 24 September 2009 at 2:47pm
	My boat is rigged cutter with check-stays.. Wondered if an asymmetrical spinnaker can be designed to run off the staysail? The cutter rig gives an excelant amount of options for adding or subtracting size of sail area and was thinking that adding a kite off the staysill would further the options, as an addition in light air or using it as a reduced spinnaker when winds build.
	Randy & Ramona Garrett SV/R3 - and the sign reads(Gone Cruising) www.stitches-n-snaps.com www.photo-opps.org

jim grant Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Sailrite Employee - Expert Joined: 25 July 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 69	Quote Reply Posted: 25 September 2009 at 9:42am
	Extra sail area is not very helpful unless it can be displayed fully to the force of the wind. Putting a sail between other sails is seldom very helpful unless their leeches can be staggered (as is probably the case with your standard cutter sails). Since the "staysail spinnaker" leech would certainly overlap the leech of the staysail and maybe even the main, it would probably not add any performance even if you could get it to fly.
	Jim Grant

RandyOnR3 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 21 September 2009 Location: California Online Status: Offline Posts: 16	Quote Reply Posted: 25 September 2009 at 10:51am
	Mis understanding Jim, I ment to say that I wanted to fly the smaller spinnaker off the staysail "stay" and without the staysail up.. I understand there would be somewhat of a shadow effect of the main and the sail, but my rig is a high aspect rig and the main is fairly short and the distance of the area from the mast to the stay is quite large.. The boat is a Beneteau FIRST 42 tall rig... Now the next question is, can you cut me a spinnaker to fit the demensions to fit the stay.???
	Randy & Ramona Garrett SV/R3 - and the sign reads(Gone Cruising) www.stitches-n-snaps.com www.photo-opps.org

MattGrant Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Admin Group Sailrite Employee - Expert Joined: 21 April 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 1185	Quote Reply Posted: 28 September 2009 at 8:48am
	This will not work. You need to fly the spinnaker in front of the forestay. Using the inner stay would not allow the sail to fly properly. I suppose you could do more of a drifter/asymmetrical sail but it would still not be the best option. Thanks, Matt Sailrite
	Best Regards, Matt Grant Sailrite